Once again, some of the top players helped themselves. Gaines Adams, who I currently have as the #3 prospect overall, ran a 4.64, the fastest time of all DLs. That should only help his stock, as it shows his potential at LB, if he doesn't make it at DE.
Alan Branch, another top 10 prospect, and the consensus #1 DT, ran a 5 flat, at 6'6" 324 pounds. He also had 33 reps, tied for 3rd most among DL.
Patrick Willis, probably the consensus #1 LB and one of my favorite players, ran an unofficial 4.49, while he was estimated by many to run in the 4.6's.
Quincy Black, from New Mexico, measured in at 6'2" 240 pounds, and might even make a move to DB. He ran an unofficial 4.42, and looked extremely fluid in quickness drills. He doesn't have ideal strength for a LB, and played this season at 230 pounds. He might be best suited by losing weight and making the switch to SS.
Possible 3-4 linebackers are always a hot item as draft day nears, and this year is no exception. Here are some of the top candidates to make the switch, along with their unofficial 40 times:
Gaines Adams, Clemson: 4.64
Antwan Applewhite, SDSU: 4.73
Jacob Ford, C Arkansas: 4.65
Justin Hickman, UCLA: 4.73
Charles Johnson, Georgia: 4.81
Jay Moore, Nebraska: 4.90
Quentin Moses, Georgia: 4.82
Jarvis Moss, Florida: 4.70
Brian Robison, Texas: 4.67
Anthony Spencer, Purdue: 4.73
Abraham Wright, Colorado: 4.90
Adam Carriker, who really impressed many at the prestigious Senior Bowl, repped 225 33 times, then followed that up with a 4.90 40. They say that your Short Shuttle time should be about .40 seconds faster than your 40 time, but Carriker ran a 4.18. That's just 1 tenth of a second slower than the top WR and RB. Not bad for a 6'6" 292 pounder.
Tank Tyler of N.C. State got 42 reps of 225, just two short of tying the combine record and 8 more than this year's next best DL. (Joe Cohen, DT/Florida, got 34)
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Monday, February 26, 2007
Sunday, February 25, 2007
Combine Day 2 Notes
The story of the week so far has got to be the best showing why they're the best. Three of my top 4 have worked out, and all have helped themselves considerably. Calvin Johnson clocked a 4.35 today, and Adrian Peterson ran a 4.40. Joe Thomas worked out yesterday and looked like the biggest, most athletic OL out there. He also ran a 4.92. Hopefully all these big names running isn't just a fluke. If you've got nothing to hide, why would you not show your stuff in front of every scout/GM/coach in the NFL?
Wide receivers ran some great times overall, and a couple lesser known players (Laurent Robinson, Jonathan Holland, Yamon Figurs, Mike Walker) all helped themselves out a lot. Figurs ran a 4.3 flat, the fastest time yet, which should sneak him into the 1st day as a KR/slot WR. Holland looked very smooth, athletic and showed good hands. Mike Walker, a former DB, and Laurent Robinson each ran sub-4.4's. All three of those players should get looks later on day 2.
Brian Leonard has said all along that he wants to play RB in the NFL, and he definitely got closer to that goal today. He helped himself at the Senior Bowl, and then ran a 4.5 today. He also posted 28 reps of 225, exactly as many as Joe Thomas.
Jared Zabransky ran a pair of times around 4.5, then tied the fastest time posted by WRs and RBs, at 4.08 in the short shuttle. Teams will likely take a look at him as a WR, but I think he has the tools to play quarterback in the NFL.
It was not a very good day overall for college QB's trying to make position changes. Syvelle Newton, who played some WR and DB at South Carolina, ran an unofficial 4.68, and didn't show natural hands in the gauntlet drill. Reggie Ball ran a couple of times around 4.8, and didn't look real smooth in other drills, either. Paul Thompson, who I have listed as a WR, worked out with the quarterbacks, ran a 4.67. That won't help his chances of playing WR, but he looked pretty good in passing drills and may get a late round look as a developmental type of QB, especially with this year's lack of 3rd-tier QB's.
Wide receivers ran some great times overall, and a couple lesser known players (Laurent Robinson, Jonathan Holland, Yamon Figurs, Mike Walker) all helped themselves out a lot. Figurs ran a 4.3 flat, the fastest time yet, which should sneak him into the 1st day as a KR/slot WR. Holland looked very smooth, athletic and showed good hands. Mike Walker, a former DB, and Laurent Robinson each ran sub-4.4's. All three of those players should get looks later on day 2.
Brian Leonard has said all along that he wants to play RB in the NFL, and he definitely got closer to that goal today. He helped himself at the Senior Bowl, and then ran a 4.5 today. He also posted 28 reps of 225, exactly as many as Joe Thomas.
Jared Zabransky ran a pair of times around 4.5, then tied the fastest time posted by WRs and RBs, at 4.08 in the short shuttle. Teams will likely take a look at him as a WR, but I think he has the tools to play quarterback in the NFL.
It was not a very good day overall for college QB's trying to make position changes. Syvelle Newton, who played some WR and DB at South Carolina, ran an unofficial 4.68, and didn't show natural hands in the gauntlet drill. Reggie Ball ran a couple of times around 4.8, and didn't look real smooth in other drills, either. Paul Thompson, who I have listed as a WR, worked out with the quarterbacks, ran a 4.67. That won't help his chances of playing WR, but he looked pretty good in passing drills and may get a late round look as a developmental type of QB, especially with this year's lack of 3rd-tier QB's.
Saturday, February 24, 2007
Combine Day 1 Notes
Greg Olsen shocked most everybody, including himself, by running a pair of sub-4.5 40 times. I’ve had Zach Miller ahead of him all along, but this just moved him ahead by a mile. It also helped him that Miller ran around a 4.8. Miller is a better blocker right now, and had a little more productive of a college career, but Olsen has far superior athletic skills. Coming into the combine, I thought they were nearly equal athletically, (most draft sites estimated both running in the 4.7 range), so I had Miller ranked #1 because of his blocking ability. Olsen has undoubtedly launched his draft status into the mid to late 1st round area, while Miller’s first round chances have definitely takes a shot. This is a prime example of how the combine can help or hurt players that look pretty even on tape.
Some other notes from the OL, TE workouts:
Tony Ugoh looked very athletic, registering a 9’9” Broad Jump (9’2” was last year’s #1 for an OL), after pulling a quad. The doctors told him to take it easy for the day, but he tried it anyways. This shows great toughness, as well as overall athletic ability. Earlier today he ran a 40 in around 5 flat, while many draft sites estimated he’d run closer to a 5.4. He also has extremely long arms (36”).
Small school players have definitely had a great day overall. Allen Barbre, an OG/OT from Missouri Southern State, ran a 4.84, one of the fastest times for an O-Lineman in a long time. Michael Allan, a TE from D3 Whitworth College, ran a 4.67, which is not bad considering it was second among tight ends only to Greg Olsen’s 4.45.
Joe Thomas and Ryan Kalil both decided to do the full workout at the combine. I projected them both in the 1st round, with Thomas at #4 overall and Kalil at #26, and they did nothing but help themselves here. Both ran sub-5 second 40’s, and Thomas did 28 reps of 225, while Kalil got 34. I’m a strong believer that the NFL should FORCE healthy players to work out at the combine. It’s becoming very popular for top prospects to wait until their pro day, where they’ll have had more time to prepare and possibly a faster surface to run on. This is not right, and if I were a GM or coach, I’d put an asterisk by those kinds of players.
Here are today's official numbers, from NFL.com:
OL Bench Presses (225lbs)
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 40
Manuel Ramirez, OG/Texas Tech: 40
Nathan Bennett, OG/Clemson: 34
Dustin Fry, C/Clemson: 34
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 34
Cameron Stephenson, OG/Rutgers: 34
Enoka Lucas, C/Oregon: 34
Kasey Studdard, OG/Texas: 32
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 32
Levi Brown, OT/Penn St: 31
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 31
Stephon Heyer, OT/Maryland: 30
Ben Grubbs, OG/Auburn: 29
Leroy Harris, C/N.C. St: 29
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 28
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 28
Dan Mozes, C/West Virginia: 28
Ken Shackleford, OT/Georgia: 28
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 28
Mike Jones, OG/Iowa: 28
Mansfield Wrotto, OG/Georgia Tech: 27
Joe Staley, OT/C Michigan: 27
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 27
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 27
Herbert Taylor, OT/TCU: 26
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 25
Josh Beekman, OG/Boston College: 24
Uche Nwaneri, OG/Purdue: 24
Elliot Vallejo, OT/Cal-Davis: 24
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 23
Andrew Carnahan, OT/Arizona St: 22
Mark Fenton, C/Colorado: 22
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 22
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 22
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 22
Palauni Ma Sun, OG/Oregon: 22
Chris Denman, OT/Fresno St: 21
Arron Sears, OG/Tennessee: 21
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 21
Tim Duckworth, OG/Auburn: 20
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 20
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 20
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 20
Stephen Berg, OG/Arizona St: 19
OL Top 40 Times
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 4.84
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 4.91
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 4.92
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 4.96
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 5.06
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 5.07
Brandon Frye, OG/Virginia Tech: 5.08
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 5.08
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 5.08
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 5.09
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 5.10
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 5.11
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 5.13
Kasey Studdard, OG/Texas: 5.18
Herbert Taylor, OT/TCU: 5.19
OL 20 yard shuttle
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 4.29
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 4.34
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 4.47
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 4.52
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 4.53
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 4.54
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 4.57
OL 3-Cone Drill
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 7.44
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 7.45
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 7.47
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 7.47
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 7.48
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 7.50
Mike Jones, OG/Iowa: 7.50
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 7.59
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 7.60
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 7.62
OL Broad Jump
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 9’9”
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 9’3”
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 9’2”
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 9’1”
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 8’10”
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 8’10”
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 8’10”
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 8’9”
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 8’9”
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 8’9”
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 8’8”
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 8’8”
Enoka Lucas, C/Oregon St: 8’8”
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 8’7”
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 8’6”
OL Vertical Jump
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 33.5”
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 33”
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 32.5”
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 32.5”
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 32”
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 32”
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 30.5”
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 30”
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 30”
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 29.5”
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 29”
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 29”
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 28.5”
TE Bench Presses (225lbs)
Daniel Coats, BYU: 34
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 27
Greg Olsen, Miami: 23
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 21
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 21
Joe Newton, Oregon St: 20
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 20
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 19
Martrez Milner, Georgia: 19
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 16
Chad Upshaw, Buffalo: 16
Anthony Pudewell, Nevada: 15
Jonny Harline, BYU: 15
TE Top 40 Times
Greg Olsen, Miami: 4.51
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 4.71
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 4.71
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 4.74
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 4.74
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 4.76
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 4.78
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 4.78
TE 20 yard shuttle
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 4.27
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 4.31
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 4.32
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 4.40
Anthony Pudewell, Nevada: 4.41
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 4.41
TE 3-Cone Drill
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 6.96
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 6.96
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 7.00
Zach Miller, Arizona St: 7.01
Greg Olsen, Miami: 7.04
Jonny Harline, BYU: 7.05
Daniel Coats, BYU: 7.07
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 7.21
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 7.23
Chad Upshaw, Buffalo: 7..23
TE Broad Jump
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 10’3”
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 10’2”
Martrez Milner, Georgia: 9’9”
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 9’8”
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 9’8”
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 9’7”
Zach Miller, Arizona St: 9’7”
Greg Olsen, Miami: 9’6”
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 9’4”
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 9’3”
TE Vertical Jump
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 37.5”
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 36”
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 36”
Greg Olsen, Miami: 35.5”
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 35”
Some other notes from the OL, TE workouts:
Tony Ugoh looked very athletic, registering a 9’9” Broad Jump (9’2” was last year’s #1 for an OL), after pulling a quad. The doctors told him to take it easy for the day, but he tried it anyways. This shows great toughness, as well as overall athletic ability. Earlier today he ran a 40 in around 5 flat, while many draft sites estimated he’d run closer to a 5.4. He also has extremely long arms (36”).
Small school players have definitely had a great day overall. Allen Barbre, an OG/OT from Missouri Southern State, ran a 4.84, one of the fastest times for an O-Lineman in a long time. Michael Allan, a TE from D3 Whitworth College, ran a 4.67, which is not bad considering it was second among tight ends only to Greg Olsen’s 4.45.
Joe Thomas and Ryan Kalil both decided to do the full workout at the combine. I projected them both in the 1st round, with Thomas at #4 overall and Kalil at #26, and they did nothing but help themselves here. Both ran sub-5 second 40’s, and Thomas did 28 reps of 225, while Kalil got 34. I’m a strong believer that the NFL should FORCE healthy players to work out at the combine. It’s becoming very popular for top prospects to wait until their pro day, where they’ll have had more time to prepare and possibly a faster surface to run on. This is not right, and if I were a GM or coach, I’d put an asterisk by those kinds of players.
Here are today's official numbers, from NFL.com:
OL Bench Presses (225lbs)
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 40
Manuel Ramirez, OG/Texas Tech: 40
Nathan Bennett, OG/Clemson: 34
Dustin Fry, C/Clemson: 34
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 34
Cameron Stephenson, OG/Rutgers: 34
Enoka Lucas, C/Oregon: 34
Kasey Studdard, OG/Texas: 32
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 32
Levi Brown, OT/Penn St: 31
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 31
Stephon Heyer, OT/Maryland: 30
Ben Grubbs, OG/Auburn: 29
Leroy Harris, C/N.C. St: 29
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 28
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 28
Dan Mozes, C/West Virginia: 28
Ken Shackleford, OT/Georgia: 28
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 28
Mike Jones, OG/Iowa: 28
Mansfield Wrotto, OG/Georgia Tech: 27
Joe Staley, OT/C Michigan: 27
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 27
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 27
Herbert Taylor, OT/TCU: 26
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 25
Josh Beekman, OG/Boston College: 24
Uche Nwaneri, OG/Purdue: 24
Elliot Vallejo, OT/Cal-Davis: 24
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 23
Andrew Carnahan, OT/Arizona St: 22
Mark Fenton, C/Colorado: 22
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 22
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 22
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 22
Palauni Ma Sun, OG/Oregon: 22
Chris Denman, OT/Fresno St: 21
Arron Sears, OG/Tennessee: 21
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 21
Tim Duckworth, OG/Auburn: 20
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 20
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 20
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 20
Stephen Berg, OG/Arizona St: 19
OL Top 40 Times
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 4.84
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 4.91
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 4.92
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 4.96
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 5.06
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 5.07
Brandon Frye, OG/Virginia Tech: 5.08
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 5.08
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 5.08
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 5.09
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 5.10
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 5.11
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 5.13
Kasey Studdard, OG/Texas: 5.18
Herbert Taylor, OT/TCU: 5.19
OL 20 yard shuttle
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 4.29
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 4.34
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 4.47
Ryan Harris, OT/Notre Dame: 4.52
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 4.53
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 4.54
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 4.57
OL 3-Cone Drill
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 7.44
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 7.45
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 7.47
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 7.47
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 7.48
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 7.50
Mike Jones, OG/Iowa: 7.50
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 7.59
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 7.60
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 7.62
OL Broad Jump
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 9’9”
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 9’3”
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 9’2”
Mario Henderson, OT/Florida St: 9’1”
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 8’10”
Corey Hilliard, OG/OT/Oklahoma St: 8’10”
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 8’10”
Drew Mormino, C/C Michigan: 8’9”
Mike Otto, OT/Purdue: 8’9”
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 8’9”
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 8’8”
Ryan Kalil, C/USC: 8’8”
Enoka Lucas, C/Oregon St: 8’8”
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 8’7”
Doug Datish, C/Ohio St: 8’6”
OL Vertical Jump
Samson Satele, C/Hawaii: 33.5”
Joe Thomas, OT/Wisconsin: 33”
Tony Ugoh, OT/Arkansas: 32.5”
Brandon Frye, OT/Virginia Tech: 32.5”
Allen Barbre, OG/OT/Missouri S St: 32”
Adam Koets, OT/Oregon St: 32”
James Marten, OT/Boston College: 30.5”
Andy Alleman, OG/Akron: 30”
Doug Free, OT/Northern Illinois: 30”
Scott Stephenson, C/Iowa St: 29.5”
Dan Santucci, OG/Notre Dame: 29”
Gabe Hall, OT/Texas Tech: 29”
Justin Blalock, OG/Texas: 28.5”
TE Bench Presses (225lbs)
Daniel Coats, BYU: 34
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 27
Greg Olsen, Miami: 23
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 21
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 21
Joe Newton, Oregon St: 20
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 20
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 19
Martrez Milner, Georgia: 19
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 16
Chad Upshaw, Buffalo: 16
Anthony Pudewell, Nevada: 15
Jonny Harline, BYU: 15
TE Top 40 Times
Greg Olsen, Miami: 4.51
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 4.71
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 4.71
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 4.74
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 4.74
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 4.76
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 4.78
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 4.78
TE 20 yard shuttle
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 4.27
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 4.31
Scott Chandler, Iowa: 4.32
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 4.40
Anthony Pudewell, Nevada: 4.41
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 4.41
TE 3-Cone Drill
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 6.96
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 6.96
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 7.00
Zach Miller, Arizona St: 7.01
Greg Olsen, Miami: 7.04
Jonny Harline, BYU: 7.05
Daniel Coats, BYU: 7.07
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 7.21
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 7.23
Chad Upshaw, Buffalo: 7..23
TE Broad Jump
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 10’3”
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 10’2”
Martrez Milner, Georgia: 9’9”
Gijon Robinson, Missouri W St: 9’8”
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 9’8”
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 9’7”
Zach Miller, Arizona St: 9’7”
Greg Olsen, Miami: 9’6”
Clark Harris, Rutgers: 9’4”
Ben Patrick, Delaware: 9’3”
TE Vertical Jump
Derek Schouman, Boise St: 37.5”
Michael Allan, Whitworth: 36”
Dante Rosario, Oregon: 36”
Greg Olsen, Miami: 35.5”
Kevin Boss, W Oregon: 35”
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